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Poster: tbrad Date: Sep 11, 2006 9:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Leary's gigs

I saw Timothy Leary back in the early '90's at the basketball stadium at Univ. of Florida (I'm a '96 alum).
I don't really know what to think about the guy. For years previous I had read so much stuff by him and aboout him. I really expected his presentation to be much more intellectual - more substantive. I mean the guy was a Harvard doctor.
But he didn't really want to talk about the '60s or the counterculture or the GD.
All he really talked about was chaos - not even chaos theory or anything interesting. Just his assertion that authority was to be disobeyed. And a movie. Yeah, he had some audio visual thing that really wasn't even all that psychadelic.

Anyway, did anybody else see him, like maybe back in the day. Was he a cool cat or overrated?
What's the score?

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Poster: blkpeter1 Date: Sep 12, 2006 11:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

yeah, I saw something on cspan2 or something like that rather. And this guy wrote a book about him And how he was this big fake and some big lier. It was crazy I was pretty shocked hearing all of this. He diffently wasn't a neal cassidy ya know? Somethings you can just tell.

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Poster: mickmac Date: Sep 12, 2006 6:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

yeah timothy leary's dead....no he's only sleeping

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Poster: mickmac Date: Sep 12, 2006 6:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

plus being in cahoots with the CIA does anybody even think he cared about the social implications...just another paid government scientist

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 12, 2006 6:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

Shulgin rules - Leary is a fake - and McKenna is just brain dead - just my two cents

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Poster: mickmac Date: Sep 12, 2006 7:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

make it four cents

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 12, 2006 11:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

I think the guy went nuts a long time ago. And not a good nuts either like Kesey. I don't think the Dead was very close to him from what I gather, with the exception of Barlow.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 12, 2006 11:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

I would have to agree. Ive read some of his later writings and, uhhhhhhh.......
I certainly wouldn't put him in the same category as Dr. Shulgin who was and is a true psychodelic pioneer (although my days of having that kind of fun are long gone).

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Sep 12, 2006 11:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

I never heard of that guy. I've heard of Terrence McKenna ( I think that's his name )of course. I had a tape of one of his lectures but man was it ever boring.

I like what Jer was saying to Gans in that interview about psychedelics - the FIRST thing: is it fun? Everything else after that is just a bonus. That's how I used to approach it. When it stopped being fun then I stopped too. Now with kids it just isn't an issue or option for me.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 12, 2006 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

Alexander Shulgin is a very interesting chemist. Pretty much responsible for ALL the designer drugs out there - although, he was doing it for psychiatric research, not raving and drooling.

I agree: not fun anymore + kids = say no to trips (have never missed it one teeny tiny bit)

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Poster: high flow Date: Sep 12, 2006 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

Yeah, we're all older and boring. Tripping and kids don't mix. Just DL a little THC and relaaaax w/ a classic show.

Does that make me a bad parent. No way, I'm a kick-ass dad! AND, my kids know good music when they hear it. GD, Mozart, Waylon Jennings or bluegrass, it's all good for the kiddies.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Sep 12, 2006 12:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

Great that your kids are getting a well rounded musical experience - mine too. I agree that THC does not make you a bad parent (unless you are doing it in front of them) - I relatively recently dropped the smoke though - started to get no fun anymore.

Gotta kick the Cigs though - now THAT does made ME a bad parent - selfish and i really get nothing out of it :( just knocking years off my life that i wont be able to spend with my children.

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Poster: blkpeter1 Date: Sep 12, 2006 12:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Leary's gigs

I'm with you on that one. I hear it every day from the kids, jerry, jerry, jerry..
I don't think i could even if i wanted too..

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